Mrs C May v Symmetric Systems Ltd: 1400514/2020
Employment Tribunal
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Case Number: 1400514/2020(V)
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EMPLOYMENT TRIBUNALS
Claimant: Mrs C May
Respondent: Symmetric Systems Limited
Heard at: Bristol (by video) On: 24, 25 and 28 August 2020
Before: Employment Judge O’Rourke
Mrs Richards Wood
Mr Ley
Representation
Claimant: in person
Respondent: Mr Magee - Counsel
RESERVED JUDGMENT
1. The Respondent unfairly dismissed the Claimant.
2. The Polkey principle applies to that dismissal, to reduce any award by 60%.
3. The Claimant’s claims of pregnancy/maternity discrimination, breach of
reg.10 of the MPL Regulations, automatic unfair dismissal and victimisation,
fail and are dismissed.
4. A remedy hearing (by video), with a time estimate of half a day, will be listed
on the next available date.
REASONS
Background and Issues
1. The Claimant was employed by the Respondent as an operations and
support manager, for approximately four and a half years, until her dismissal,
with effect 14 January 2020, on alleged grounds of redundancy.
2. The Claimant was on maternity leave at the time. As a consequence of that
dismissal, she brings claims of maternity discrimination (s.18(4) Equality Act
2010 (‘EqA’)), breach of reg.10(2) Maternity and Parental Leave Regulations
1999 (‘MPL’), victimisation (s.27 EqA), automatic unfair dismissal (s.99
Employment Rights Act 1996 (‘ERA’)) and ‘ordinary’ unfair dismissal (s.98
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ERA). The original claim was brought on 24 January 2020, but the Claimant
subsequently applied to amend her claim to include one of victimisation,
which application was granted by the Tribunal at a case management hearing
on 16 July 2020.
3. The Respondent is a claims management company, which, at the relevant
time, it is not disputed, was predominantly involved in the Payment Protection
Insurance (PPI) market.
4. The issues in respect of each claim are as follows:
a. Maternity Discrimination (s.18 EqA).
i. There is no dispute that the Claimant suffered the detriment of
being dismissed, during the protected period of her pregnancy.
ii. Was her dismissal because of her pregnancy?
b. Maternity Regs (reg.10).
i. Was it not practicable, by reason of redundancy, for the
Respondent to continue to employ the Claimant under her
existing contract of employment?
ii. If so, was there suitable alternative employment (as defined by
reg.10(3)) that could have been offered to the Claimant, but was
not?
c. Victimisation (s.27 EqA).
i. It is not disputed that the Claimant carried out a ‘protected act’,
by either alleging maternity discrimination and/or threatening to
take these proceedings, in her appeal against dismissal, of 28
October 2019 [57].
ii. Has the Claimant established what the detrimental action relied
upon is? In this respect, the Claimant states that as a
consequence of answers the Respondent (in the person of Mr
Smart, its managing director) gave, on 22 January 2020, to a
questionnaire from the Claimant’s mortgage protection insurance
company [28], that Company declined to honour the policy and
refused to cover her mortgage payments.
iii. Did the Respondent subject the Claimant to that detriment?
iv. Was any such detriment because of the protected act?
d. Automatic Unfair Dismissal (s.99 ERA). Was the reason, or principal
reason for the Claimant’s dismissal, her pregnancy, childbirth, maternity
or the taking of maternity leave?
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e. ‘Ordinary’ Unfair Dismissal (s.98 ERA).
i. Has the Respondent shown the reason for dismissal? The
Respondent states redundancy, or, in the alternative, Some
Other Substantial Reason (SOSR), but the Claimant asserts that
it was due to her maternity.
ii. Was the dismissal procedurally fair? Procedural fairness would
require adequate and meaningful consultation, the consideration
of a pool for selection, a fair method of selection and
consideration of the possibility of suitable alternative
employment.
iii. If the dismissal were found to be procedurally unfair, the
Respondent would seek to rely on the Polkey principle, as to the
assessment of appropriate remedy.
The Law
5. In addition to those authorities to which we have referred ourselves below,
Mr Magee referred us to the following:
a. Simpson v Endsleigh Insurance Services Ltd [2001] ICR 75 UKEAT,
as to the definition of ‘suitable alternative work’ in reg.10 MPL.
b. Taylor v OCS Group Ltd [2006] IRLR 613 EWCA, as to whether or not
an internal appeal could ‘cure’ any prior lapses in procedure.
c. Capita Hartshead Ltd v Bayard [2012] IRLR 814 UKEAT, as to pool
selection.
The Facts
6. We heard evidence from the Claimant and on behalf of the Respondent, from
Mr Simon Smart, its managing director and Mr Paul Costelloe, a minority
shareholder and who was involved in the consultation process.
Chronology
7. We set out an uncontentious list of relevant dates and events.
(1) 14 August 2019 – the Claimant went on maternity leave.
(2) 13 September 2019 – the Claimant came into the office to meet with Mr
Costelloe (the content and nature of this discussion is in dispute).
(3) 1 October 2019 – there was an exchange of text messages between the
Claimant and a colleague, Amy Piper, the senior process manager and
the Claimant’s line-manager, in which redundancies were generally
discussed and also the potential for a reduction in salary. The Claimant
indicated the possibility of breaking her maternity leave to cover for Ms
Piper, who was herself due to go on such leave in December [46].
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(4) 10 October 2019 – the Claimant referred in an email to being requested
to agree to a salary reduction of £10,000 (not disputed by the
Respondent), but she did not agree [50].
(5) 14 October 2019 – the Claimant received a letter confirming notification
of dismissal on grounds of redundancy [51].
(6) 28 October 2019 – the Claimant appealed against her dismissal [57],
referring to potential discrimination on grounds of her maternity.
(7) 15 November 2019 – the Claimant received the outcome of her appeal,
from Mr Smart, rejecting it [63-66].
(8) 19-22 November 2019 – there was an exchange of emails between the
Claimant and Mr Smart, as to the possibility of her being paid her
redundancy and all SMP due to her, in an advance payment, but Mr
Smart concluded, subsequently, on his accountant’s advice that he could
not do this [69]. There was then a suggestion by Mr Smart that if the
Claimant ‘drop the appeal’, advance payments could be made at the end
of that month [70]. It was not disputed by either party that this is, in fact,
a reference to these proceedings, not the internal appeal, which had
already, obviously, concluded. The Claimant responded, agreeing that
she would ‘drop the appeal’ [71] and the payment was subsequently
received.
(9) 9 December 2019 – the Claimant sent Mr Smart a questionnaire from
her mortgage protection insurers, for his completion [79A].
(10) 12 December 2019 – the Claimant entered into ACAS Early Conciliation,
which was subsequently extended to 24 January 2020 [90].
(11) 7 January 2020 (all dates hereafter 2020) – the insurers sent a request
for further information to Mr Smart [121].
(12) 9 January – Mr Smart wrote to the Claimant stating, ‘to say we are
disappointed would be an understatement, you have been supported
substantially over the years and the harm that you have caused to so
many is enormous and unforgivable’ [82].
(13) 23 January – Mr Smart completed and returned the insurance
questionnaire to the insurers [120], stating that ‘if you require any further
information please do not hesitate to contact me as there was limited
space to respond in full on the form provided.’
(14) 24 January – the Claimant presented this claim to the Tribunal.
(15) 31 January – the insurers wrote to the Claimant, declining to accept
liability for her claim. They referred to her answer to a question put to
her, when applying for the policy in March 2019, when she said ‘no’ to
the question ‘Do you know of any redundancies, restructure, reorganisation,
financial or contractual threats within the business you
work in, even if you do not believe actions will result in you becoming
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unemployed?’. They considered that answer, in the light of her
knowledge of the PPI deadline, incorrect and invalidated the policy [91].
(16) 3 - 12 February – the insurers wrote again asking Mr Smart for ‘any
evidence to support your claim that Mrs May was aware of her job being
at risk in 2017?’ [119]. Mr Smart responded on 10 February, referring
to ‘the most obvious form of evidence … was all over the national press
since August 2017 …’. He also referred to emails sent to all staff re the
PPI deadline for the bringing of claims (August 2019) [118]. On 12
February, having been asked for copies of these ‘announcement emails’,
he responded, stating that ‘there wasn’t an announcement as such prior
to the potential redundancy announcement. It was well known to all staff
that we would likely be shutting down following the completion of any
remaining claims after the deadline’ [116].
8. Maternity Discrimination/Automatic Unfair Dismissal. We consider both of
these claims together as a similar question arises in both – was the
Claimant’s dismissal because of her pregnancy/maternity leave (or, in the
case of automatic unfair dismissal, was it at least the principal reason). We
find that her dismissal was not on those grounds , for the following reasons:
a. We were satisfied that the Respondent had to consider redundancies,
due to the dramatic downturn in the PPI market, due to the August 2019
deadline.
b. Only one of the previous four managers retained their position, indicating
to us that the Claimant was just one of several to be made
redundant/take voluntary redundancy/be dismissed without redundancy
(having less than two years’ service) [organisation chart 115].
c. The Claimant seemed to us to have been a valued employee of the
Respondent and doing a good job, reflected by her being given a
£10,000 pay rise, in the previous year and also having had her notice
period extended from one month to three. We are confident that had the
redundancy situation not existed, brought on by the PPI deadline, the
Claimant would have returned to her old position, or something similar
to it, following her maternity leave.
d. Despite her pregnancy and the taking of maternity leave, Ms Piper
remains in the Respondent’s employment.
9. Breach of Reg 10 MPL. Reg. 10 requires an employer to offer an employee
on maternity leave, whose position is at risk of redundancy, a ‘first option’ (i.e.
in preference to other employees) on any suitable alternative employment
that is available. Such employment must be ‘of a kind which is suitable both
in relation to the employee and appropriate for her to do in the circumstances
… and its provisions as to the capacity and place in which she is to be
employed, and as to other terms and conditions of her employment, are not
substantially less favourable to her (in comparison to the previous contract).’
Endsleigh indicates that ‘suitability’ should be judged from the perspective
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of an objective employer, not from the employee’s perspective and that it is
up to the employer, knowing what it does about the employee’s personal
circumstances and work experience, to decide whether or not a vacancy is
suitable. In respect of this head of claim, therefore, we find, for the following
reasons that there was no such suitable alternative employment:
a. Only one managerial role remained, that of Ms Piper’s, the senior
process manager, which she was filling and which was not therefore
available for the Claimant.
b. Such roles as otherwise remained were administrative only, on the
National Living Wage and were not, therefore, when viewed by an
objective employer, ‘suitable’ in terms of status or salary.
10. Victimisation.
a. Did the Respondent submit the Claimant to the detriment of losing her
mortgage protection insurance cover? For detriment to occur, the
employee, in his or her actual condition, must be worse off than would
otherwise be the case. Then he or she is at a disadvantage and has
suffered a detriment. The test is whether a reasonable worker would or
might take the view that the treatment accorded to them had in all the
circumstances been to their detriment (Shamoon v Chief Constable of
the Royal Ulster Constabulary [2003] UKHL 11). However,
subsequently, in Derbyshire v St Helens Metropolitan Borough
Council [2007] ICR 841 UKHL, it was confirmed that such belief on an
employee’s part must be ‘objectively reasonable’ in all the
circumstances. The Equalities and Human Rights Commission
Employment Code summarises ‘detriment’ as ‘anything which the
individual concerned might reasonably consider changed their position
to the worse, or put them at a disadvantage.’ In considering that
guidance, we find that the Claimant was not victimised, for the following
reasons:
i. It is clear to us that the manner in which Mr Smart responded to
the insurance questionnaire was motivated, at least in part, by his
perception of the Claimant having reneged on the ‘deal’ he
considered he had struck with her as to ‘dropping the appeal’, i.e.
this Tribunal claim. His feelings on that matter were clearly
expressed by him in his email of 9 January 2020 [82]. When
challenged in cross-examination as the email’s tone, he
apologised, stating that they ‘had been friends for a long time and
she had gone back on our agreement … I was upset and angry’.
However, we nonetheless do not consider that the Claimant
suffered a detriment as a consequence. It is obvious that Mr
Smart went beyond merely responding to the insurer with basic
information, instead using expansive language and offering even
more information if required, ‘as there was limited space to
respond in full on the form provided’. However, the question we
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must ask ourselves is was the Claimant’s position worse as a
consequence? We don’t consider that it was, for the following
reasons:
1. She accepted in cross-examination that she had
unintentionally mislead the insurer when she made the
application, in particular in her answer to the question as
to whether or not she was aware of any ‘re-organisation,
financial or contractual threats within the business you
work in, even if you do not believe actions will result in you
becoming unemployed?’. It seems highly likely, therefore
that once the insurer became aware that the bulk of the
Claimant’s employer’s business was PPI and that she was
a manager in that business and therefore obviously fully
aware of relevant facts that her policy would have been
invalidated, in any event.
2. Any honest answer by Mr Smart would have resulted in the
same answer. The fact that he somewhat ‘gilded the lily’
made no difference to the overall outcome.
11. Unfair Dismissal. We consider the following:
a. Has the Respondent shown the reason for dismissal? Having found
that, in respect of maternity discrimination/automatic unfair dismissal
that the Claimant was not dismissed for those reasons, then we find that
redundancy was the reason and which is clearly a potentially fair reason.
b. Was the dismissal procedurally fair? We find that it was not, for the
following reasons:
i. Mr Costelloe held a group consultation meeting with all staff on
13 September, to discuss the possibility of redundancies.
Following that meeting a letter a letter dated 13th, was sent out to
employees [43-45]. It stated that a ‘further formal meeting will
follow and you can bring a colleague or trade union official with
you to any of the formal meetings, if you wish.’ The Claimant said
that while she did have a meeting with Mr Costelloe on the 13th,
it was a one-to-one informal meeting and that she did not attend
any group meeting that took place on that day and nor was she
sent a copy of the letter. She said that her discussion with Mr
Costelloe did not result in her considering that her role was at risk,
with the focus seeming to be on the admin team and that the first
she was aware of her position being at risk was when she
received the notification of redundancy letter on 14 October [51].
She said that instead there was discussion as to her filling in for
Ms Piper, when she went on maternity leave and that she offered
to reduce her hours. While Mr Costelloe recalled the offer to
reduce hours, he did not recall any discussion about maternity
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leave cover and he kept no notes. We prefer the Claimant’s
evidence on this point, for the following reasons:
1. The Response states that she did not attend the group
meeting [21] and Mr Costelloe was unable to explain that
discrepancy.
2. Mr Costelloe’s own correspondence is confusing on this
point, as his email of the 13th, refers to a group meeting ‘on
the previous day’.
3. There was no evidence of the letter being sent to her,
despite the Respondent being given the opportunity, in this
Hearing, to make further enquiries.
4. The Claimant’s evidence was clear on this point.
ii. Whatever happened on the 13th/12th, it is undisputed evidence
that there were no further consultation meetings of any kind with
the Claimant, prior to receiving her notification of redundancy.
iii. She was completely unaware of the assessment process by
which her position was chosen for redundancy, to include the
criteria used and her scoring for those criteria. She was never
shown the matrix [111] and given no opportunity to contest her
scores, or to discuss other possible criteria that might have been
applied. Even at that, Mr Smart said in evidence that other
unknown criteria were also applied, in making the decision. The
Claimant disputed her scoring in relation to her sick leave, being
scored three instead of a maximum of four, for having taken 2.5
days’ sick leave. She said that those days were for ante-natal
classes and should not therefore have been taken into account.
The Respondent was unable, at this hearing, to provide evidence
on this point (despite being given another opportunity to do so)
and of course, had consultation taken place, it could have been
one of several subjects discussed, such as, for example, the
possibility of reduced hours/salary and maternity cover. Her
worst score (1) was for the consideration that ‘most of her tasks
can be automated’, for which again she had no opportunity to
comment on, or dispute.
iv. The pool contained all the permanent employees, regardless of
skill level, salary or position. We are conscious of the guidance
in Hartshead, as to not ‘second-guessing’ employers on the
composition of the pool, but don’t consider, in this case that the
Respondent seriously ‘applied their mind to the problem’. There
was no corroborative evidence as to when this matrix was created
and how it was used during the process. It had all the appearance
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to us of a document that was created for form’s sake, rather than
for substance.
v. Bizarrely, one of those listed in the matrix, Ms Piper, scored her
colleagues, despite her own position being apparently at risk.
vi. There was only limited evidence as to any active consideration
by the Respondent as to suitable alternative employment. While
the notification of redundancy letter refers to such consideration,
neither Respondent witness gave any impression that issue was
in any way foremost in their minds and of course, in the absence
of consultation, there was no opportunity to discuss such matters.
vii. We do not accept that because of the size of this Company that
it should be given some leeway in respect of the lack of procedure
adopted. The Respondent, on its own evidence, had more than
ample time to consider the possibility of having to make
redundancies and therefore to plan accordingly. It was Mr
Smart’s choice not to be in UK at this important time for his
employees, when he could have had a more ‘hands-on’ approach
to the procedure, instead choosing to delegate it to Mr Costelloe,
who was neither a director, nor employee of the Respondent.
While the Respondent does not have an HR representative, this
is not a company unused to legal proceedings, or to taking legal
advice and there was no reason apparent to us why they could
not have done so at this point. Even a cursory examination of the
ACAS website offers much useful advice on this subject. In any
event, Mr Smart himself refers to having ‘taken professional
advice and continue to do so’ on this issue and also to same
ACAS website, in his response to the Claimant’s appeal [64].
viii. Nor do we agree that applying Taylor v OCS, Mr Smart’s
handling of the Claimant’s appeal rectified the multiple procedural
failures of the Respondent. That case involved the ‘re-hearing’ of
a disciplinary matter and while we accept that the principle could
also apply in a redundancy dismissal, we do not consider, for the
following reasons that Mr Smart’s handling of the Claimant’s
appeal did so:
1. The appeal was not stated to be and nor was it, a ‘rehearing’
(in other words, the ‘re-running’) of the
redundancy procedure. That procedure had already taken
place and was not re-considered, in totality. There was no
question, from the letter’s tone, of any re-hearing, but
simply an attempt to justify the previous decision.
2. It was dealt with on paper only and the Claimant was given
no opportunity to put her case in person (even by video).
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3. While it seeks to address the issues raised by the
Claimant, it focuses on the justification for redundancies,
both in general and in respect of the Claimant’s position in
particular, but doesn’t really deal with, or even recognise,
or attempt to rectify the procedural failings set out above.
Mr Smart, instead, based on his assertion as to having
taken ‘professional advice’, did not consider that there
were any such failings.
12. Polkey. As we find the dismissal procedurally unfair, we go on to consider
as to whether Polkey applies and if so, to what percentage, in terms of
reduction of any award. We note the guidance in Software 2000 Ltd v
Andrews [2007] IRLR 568 UKEAT, in particular that:
‘(4) Whether that is the position (as to whether employment would have
ceased in any event) is a matter of impression and judgment for the Tribunal.
But in reaching that decision the Tribunal must direct itself properly. It must
recognise that it should have regard to any material and reliable evidence
which might assist it in fixing just compensation, even if there are limits to the
extent to which it can confidently predict what might have been; and it must
appreciate that a degree of uncertainty is an inevitable feature of the exercise.
The mere fact that an element of speculation is involved is not a reason for
refusing to have regard to the evidence.’
13. We find that the Polkey principle does apply in this case, to the extent of
reducing the Claimant’s award by 60% and do so for the following reasons:
a. We consider that there was a less than ‘fifty-fifty chance’ that the
Claimant’s employment would have continued, even had there been a
fair procedure, based on the reduction in managerial roles and the
downturn in the bulk of the Respondent’s business.
b. There were, however, factors that due to the complete failure to
genuinely consult, were never properly canvassed with the Claimant, to
include a pay reduction, reduction in hours, maternity cover for Ms Piper,
or even perhaps a job-share between her and the Claimant, on the
former’s eventual return from maternity leave. While the Respondent
contends that the Claimant ruled out taking a pay cut, she did so without
the benefit of any background information, upon which to sensibly make
such a decision. She did however offer a reduction in hours and both
she and Ms Piper also discussed maternity cover and who knows what
subsequent job-sharing possibilities might have arisen, had there been
the appropriate and ‘meaningful’ consultation, the entire point of which
is discuss such matters, with the intention, if possible, of avoiding
redundancies. We accept that there were some differences between
hers and Ms Piper’s roles and experience, but there was uncontested
evidence that the Claimant had stood in before for Ms Piper. The
Claimant was clearly a valued employee and is obviously an intelligent
person, who had shown (as Mr Smart stated) considerable flexibility in
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the past and could no doubt do so again. We don’t accept, therefore
that there could not have been, if considered necessary, some blending
of the roles.
c. While it is correct, as the Respondent points out that the Claimant said
in her letter of appeal that she no longer wished to work for the
Respondent, we accepted her evidence that she said so because she
‘had had no consultations with anybody and did the best I could (in
setting out her appeal). My son (her very recently-born child) was very
unwell and I was extremely hurt and wrote something I wouldn’t do now,
being emotional at the time.’ and that this had been her first time to be
involved in such a process. We do not consider, therefore that had
adequate and meaningful consultation taken place that she would have
felt this way.
d. Clearly, as indicated in Software 2000, there must be a degree of
speculation in our finding in this respect, as it is difficult to predict, with
any certainty, as to what might have occurred, had a fair procedure been
adopted, but we consider, based on the evidence before us that a 60%
Polkey reduction is appropriate.
Conclusion
14. For these reasons, therefore, we find as follows:
a. The Respondent unfairly dismissed the Claimant.
b. The Polkey principle applies to that dismissal, to reduce any award by
60%.
c. The Claimant’s claims of pregnancy/maternity discrimination, breach of
reg.10 of the MPL Regulations, automatic unfair dismissal and
victimisation, fail and are dismissed.
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Employment Judge C H O’Rourke
_________________________________________
Date 1 September 2020
JUDGMENT & WRITTEN REASONS SENT TO THE PARTIES ON
9 September 2020
FOR EMPLOYMENT TRIBUNALS
Case Number: 1400514/2020(V)
EMPLOYMENT TRIBUNALS
Claimant: Mrs C May
Respondent: Symmetric Systems Limited
Heard at: Bristol (by video) On: 28 September 2020
Before: Employment Judge O’Rourke
Mrs Richards Wood
Mr Ley
Representation
Claimant: in person
Respondent: Mr Magee - Counsel
REMEDY JUDGMENT
1. The Respondent is ordered to pay the Claimant the sum of £2387.56, in
respect of her unfair dismissal, as set out in the attached schedule.
2. (Note: As no account was taken at the Hearing for an award in respect of
Loss of Statutory Rights, such loss has been added to the schedule. The
Parties have seven days from the date of issue of this Judgment to make any
written representations, if so advised, in respect of that additional sum).
__________________________________________
Employment Judge C H O’Rourke
Date 28 September 2020
Note -
Reasons for the judgment having been given orally at the hearing, written reasons will not be provided unless a request was made by either
party at the hearing, or a written request is presented by either party within 14 days of the sending of this written record of the decision.
Schedule
Case Number: 1400514/2020(V)
Basic Award – nil (as Statutory Redundancy Pay paid)
Compensatory
Prescribed Amount
Loss of earnings – weekly net of £312.57
from 13 May to 1 September 2020 – 15.86 weeks £ 4957.36
1 September to 15 September 2020 – two weeks £ 486.52
at £243.26 per week
Sub-total £ 5443.88
Polkey reduction 60% (£3266.32)
Total Prescribed Amount £2177.56
Non-prescribed Amount
No future loss, as loss ceased on 15 September 2020
Loss of Statutory Rights (set at one week’s statutory
Pay) £ 525.00
Polkey reduction 60% (£ 315.00)
Total Non-prescribed amount £ 210.00
Grand Total £2387.56
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